1/2 ton Carryalls

[mschiller]

Does anyone know what the difference is between the WC-10 and WC-17 Carryalls? Are there any outward indications that would enable you to differentiate between the two, or would you just have to go on serial numbers alone?

[Paul Cook]

References:

TM 10-1123/1443, Maintenance Manual, 1/2 ton 4x4 Chassis, Dodge Trucks Built for United States Army

Master Parts List Covering Dodge Trucks Built for United States Army, SNL G-657

The only discernable differences are the U.S. Government Contract Numbers, the Engineering Codes, the block of U.S. Government Registration Numbers assigned to each contract, and the vehicle serial numbers.

What are the numbers from your truck?

Your question tells us that the data plate is missing from your truck since it would identify the vehicle model. That also tells us you do not have the contract number which would also be on the missing data plate.

The engineering code is the first part of the engine serial number - if the engine is original. The engineering codes do not identify the particular contract number. There were many body types with the same engineering code built under different contract numbers.

The WC-10 was built under engineering code T207 which included WC-1 through WC-11.

The WC-17 was built under engineering code T211 which included WC-12 through WC-20.

465 WC-10's were built under contract number W-398-QM-8286. The starting serial number was 8644701 and last serial number was 8666216.

1178 WC-10s were built under contract number W-398-QM-9410. The starting serial number was 8666301 and last serial number was 8676719.

274 WC-17's were built under contract number W-398-QM-9388. The starting serial number was 8676901 and last serial number was 8694193. This is the contract number and the serial number range for all T211 types.

The U.S. Government Registration Numbers are stencilled on the hood - originally in a medium blue. There are multiple blocks of registration numbers for trucks built under a single contract.

The vehicle serial number is stamped on the left front frame generally behind the left front wheel.

Post the registration and serial numbers and we may be able to get a better idea of what your truck is. Also, post pictures.

[mschiller]

Thanks very much Paul for the information. I didn't look too closely at the data plate when I was initially looking at the truck as it's parked out in the middle of an old logged over area from 30 years ago (you'll see what I mean when you see the pictures).

It was parked right where the previous owner ran the fan into the radiator in 1972. The engine is not the original. It is supposed to be a 239 DeSoto, and just a bit longer than the 218 it replaced, so there wasn't much clearance between the fan and rad.

The owner claimed that they did a lot of mechanical work, including an engine overhaul before leaving Berkley, CA in 1969/70. They used it for chores on their acreage and to push snow and broke the front left axle at some point, just using it as a two wheel drive afterwards.

The axle parts are still laying in the back of the truck. Unfortunately, some kids broke all the glass in the truck, so I won't know how much rust there is until I get it out and cleaned up.

It didn't look too bad at first glance, but who knows. I'll get over and pick it up when work slows down a bit.

[mschiller]

A side view of the same truck, with the same tree fallen onto the cowl. Surprisingly, there was just a small dent when I removed the tree.

[Rick Sultan]

Nice find, great photos, used to find them like that up here in Oregon, it sounds like the engine is a 251 flat head 2 inches longer than a 230, that why the fan is so close to the radiator, theres an easy fix for that.

Lucky you,when they sit on private land like that, usally the glass is the worst someone can damage them, unless its hunting season. Looks straight, lots of little creatures living in it now, most will jump out as you move or load it up, so watch out!

I also have a lot of half ton driveline NOS, let me know if I can help out. I'll be in Lodi at the MVCC meet this month, in California, good place to find parts.

See me! Sultan Dodge, Rick

[Paul Cook]

First of all, thanks for acknowledging my response. I’m sure the others on the Forums feel the same when their responses are acknowledged. Unlike “winging it” or just giving an opinion, searching references and preparing factual responses takes some time. I know we all enjoy sharing our knowledge of these great trucks.

Doing research benefits me by expanding my knowledge and my research skills. I enjoy it. Sharing information is a major reason for establishing the Kempner POWER WAGON Museum. Click on the “www” button at the bottom of my response to visit the Museum web site.

To be sure I provide the best and most complete information, I search through all relevant references. Then I cross check the information.

For example, there is a different engine assembly part number for the T207 series without winch and those with winch. There is also a different part number for radio equipped T207 series and T207 without radios. In the T211 series, there were different engine assembly part numbers for radio and non-radio trucks. And there were two sets of part numbers for engines up to 42001 and after 42001.

T207 and T211 up to 42001 had the same basic engine block part number, and T211 after 42001 had another – that also went through the T215 series.

The complete engine assemblies were different because of accessories, but the blocks were the same.

I made this comparison to double check the general engine information in a reference section describing the vehicles. While the engine assembly part numbers were not pertinent to my response, they validated the information I gave.

If you can read the contract number on the data plate, I will give you the Army registration number range. The serial number will help narrow it down.

Those are great pictures. Good luck with your Carryall.

[mschiller]

Thanks again Paul. Your website texaspowerwagons.com has been in my bookmarks for some time now.

You mention the Alcan Pipeline on one of your pages. I fly helicopters for a living, and used to spend a lot of time working in northern Canada. I remember more than 20 years ago flying the Alcan and stopping in at some of the old camps along the line.

The quonset huts were still there, with equipment, including trucks, as it was left when the project was cancelled. A lot of people had gone through, picking over anything of value with the odd person wrecking things just out of some perverse kind of enjoyment.

A guy that I worked with, who was based in Norman Wells, NWT, brought out a nice closed cab 1/2 ton when he was walking a cat back to town one winter. Unfortunately, rather than restoring it, he made more or less a street rod out of it. Years later, some environmental entrepreneur convinced the federal government that the line needed to be cleaned up, so most of it has been lost, from what I've heard.

Rick, you're right about the critters. When I opened the hood, there was a nest made with moss that filled 3/4 of the engine compartment. Luckily the lady of the house was out when I removed it.

Thanks for letting me know about your parts, it will likely need more than a few healthy transfusions, if in fact it turns out to be worth restoring.

[mschiller]

Oops, my mistake. Going back to your website Paul, It was the Alcan Highway you were talking about not the pipeline from Norman Wells to Whitehorse (which up here was called the Canol pipeline).

[mschiller]

I finally got around to getting the Carryall out of the bush. After about 5 hours of chainsaw work, I was able to get close enough to winch it on to the trailer for the 5 hour drive home. I'll do a bit of cleaning up on it to see just how much moth and rust has consumed. Amazing how durable the original paint is, any paint put on over top is flaking off, but the OD still hangs in there. Here are some photos on ImageEvent after I got it back.


http://imageevent.com/mschiller/1941dodgecarryall?p=0&w=4&c=4&n=0&m=24&s=0&z=2&l=0

[Gordon Maney]

Is one difference the gauges? Does one have round, and the other have rectangular gauges?

[mschiller]

Could be Gordon, I don't know. I was able to see the US Army registration number (2070143). Searching registration numbers, it appears to be one out of the last batch of 1499 Carryalls produced in 1942. Once it cools off a bit tonight, I'll take a look for the serial number, and maybe the contract number which, according to the registration number, should be 11592.

[Bruce]

Greetings mshiller,
Nice pictures, real nice find, did you just stumble onto it or had someone given you it's where-abouts? From the looks of thing, you have a lot of original and hard to find parts, how some of them function remains to be seen yet? How far are you from Vancouver?
Regards,

[mschiller]

Thanks Bruce, I had an ad in a community newspaper looking for Power Wagon parts, and the guy that owned it phoned me up and wondered if I was interested. I was...

It has the window regulators for the back windows, and most of the handles, but I shudder to think what sort of rust encrusted mess they are behind the interior sheetmetal. The engine isn't original. It was replaced by the previous owner in California in about 1970 with a Desoto long block. As you see from the water pump, that didn't work out too well without moving the rad forward. The upper rear door is pretty good, the lower one is there, but needs a lot of work, and there is the usual rust on the lower body, and just a bit starting at the seam on the drivers side. Nothing that suitcases full of money wont fix.

I'm in south central BC, about 4 hours from the traffic jams of Vancouver. I go there when I must, then turn tail and get the heck out of Dodge, so to speak.

[Bruce]

My Sister in-law and her husband live in Vancouver, a long story and too much band with. Get yourself a mig/tig welder and a friend with a plasma cutter, the sheet metal work will go a lot faster. I have always like the Carryall, one of these days....
Thanks 4 The Pic's,

[mschiller]

What a coincidence, I found a picture on a Russian website of a WC26 with an Army number only 16 later than this one. If only it looked that good...

[Terry Newton]

Also, the location on the earlier trucks of the gauges was over the steering column.

On the later models the gauges were moved to the center of the dash, and more standardization of gauges was taking place.

I don't know if this occurred on the Dodge trucks, but many half-tracks were used in the lend-lease program. Because of this many vehicles went straight overseas, and were never used by our troops.

As a result, I have driven half-tracks with gauges that were in english, and I have driven half-tracks with gauges and also data plates that were in French. I just had to start turning switches!

[JimmieD]

Great find, mschiller! That's near the top of my personal favorites of any military vehicle. Couldn't find one [that I could afford] but when I discovered my Town Wagon many years ago I figured it might be as close as I would ever get. I wish you the very best on the rest of the adventure and look forward to progress reports and more good pictures!
JimmieD

[mschiller]

Turns out to be a WC26 according to the serial number (81527128), and it's from the Bay area, which must be close to your neck of the woods JimmieD. I cleaned out about 4 green garbage bags full of leaves, dirt, glass and squirrels nests today. It looks a whole lot better just doing that, but there's definitely a bit of rust. A dime sized hole in the front passenger floorboard, along both seams in the floor by the front kick panels, and the lower edge of the inside rear body panels on the drivers side. Both outer skins behind the doors at the bottom, just above the running boards. Rust where the rear fenders join the body skin along the aft section of the fender. The window regulators are frozen, and the side glass window frames have some cancer. The drivers side door has a hole in the doorskin about the size of a quarter. Too many years sitting in the bush with the windows shot out. Does anyone know whether the rad from a WD21 will fit the Carryall? They look awfully close, but I never had my tape measure with me to check.

[Jake]

I was looking in the archives and found this thread, I read it with interest since this is the truck I recently purchased from My friend Mel.
The truck will need a frame up restoration to make it last another 66 years, however I am trying to get it to pass an inspection so I can leave it in original condition to show at a few local car shows. I may get ahold of my neighbor to see if I can park it beside his Volvo (SUUGA)? not to sure about the spelling or pronunciation.

[Bruce]

Dodge has always rubbed elbows w/the big guns, the SUGGA is an awesome vehicle!! What goes around come around, gud & bad!

[Rob S]

Hi
Just found this thread I am currently restoring a WC26 with a long long way to go. When I bought it from another collector it was in pieces, the right hand side had hit a tree and lots of bits are missing. However as it is one of only two in Australia it is worth the effort. My biggest problem is that parts and other vehicles to look at are just not here, so every time I start to do something I run into either something missing or unsure how it goes together. So far I have done the chassis and diffs and am working on the front end sheet metal. One question someone may be able to answer, on the rear of the chassis is a tow hook, two bolts go through the rear chassis cross rail, below that was another bracket that the two lower bolts went through, however this bracket is missing, can someone post a picture of what it shold look like.
Cheers
Rob S in Adelaide South Australia

[Bruce]

Not a WC26, but a WC53. (I think) Paul is a great mechanic, wish he lived next door!
;~)

http://imageevent.com/moosecreekmaple/1943dodgecarryall;jsessionid=2pi2kw81w1.kizo_s

[Jake]

Hey Rob,
Nice to hear from you, have you got some pictures of your WC?
I have some relatives in Australia, maybe I'll get over there to see them one of these days? Now that I know there is a few WC's there it is starting to make allot more sense to make the trip.

[balsaboy]

I just bought the remains of a WC17, and it makes me sick to think of what it once looked like after looking at yours. They had cut the cab right behind the doors and put plywood sheet in with screws to form the back side of the cab. That's apparently as far as the conversion to a flatbed ever got. I was only able to save the fenders, headlights, and one door. The hood is missing the center and has been cut up. Lord, what a disaster!
I have to check the frame numbers to find out what it really is.

Yours looks like a virtual restored version by comparison! Great find!

[Jake]

Tragic, when you see the carnage on some of these old trucks. I would hang on to the WC17 and see what else shows up, it could be a great donor for another Carryall project, I'm sure there is more of these out there.
I know of 41 panel that is an hour east of me and it would be a restoration candidate.

[balsaboy]

Jake, I am keeping everything I can and hope to do exactly what your suggesting. At first I thought they had a cut a B1 Cab because it looked like windows started right before the cut, and they had, the owner did insist it had been a WC17 and when I examined pictures I realized that is what it had been. Also it has round military gauges centered over the steering wheel. The dash was cut at the glove box, and the bottom of the cab was completely rusted away. The body was almost a complete loss. Heck, most of it was gone when I recovered it. It did have five combat rims, not in good shape at all, but that was my primary motivation in the deal. Mschillers' is beautiful by any comparison to the wreck I dragged home.

Anyways it didn't have a title. Supposedly the owner didn't want it to ever see the road again. They sure made a good start to seeing that wouldn't happen.

Jake, where is east of you?

[Jake]

I live in the Okanagan valley of southern BC Canada, east of me is Nelson BC.
West of me is the Pacific Ocean and Vancouver Island.

[Jake]

Where are yo Balsaboy?

[balsaboy]

Jake I'm currently being held against my will on the outskirts of Tacoma/Seattle.

[balsaboy]

Nelson BC didn't used be as far away as it is today when gas was cheap, cars were large, and the borders open.


I managed a couple of escapes in my life and once visited Pentiction as a kid. More recently I acted dumber than usual and the Canadians let me across with only a good scolding. The return back to Washington was an event to remember though. I think they got even for the Canadian Guards, still, they didn't shoot at me but I know they wanted to.

Can't even think about going north without a passport now days. Total bummer man.

[Jake]

We have had some interesting experiances as well when it comes to crossing the border, it Just depends on the person on duty.
I have finally convinced the owner of the WC Panel to sell the truck to me, now I am working on the price. It runs and he is still using it, however it needs allot of work.

[balsaboy]

Nice Going Jake! you rescued another one and that's what matters.

I didn't know a thing about powerwagons when I bought mine. I saw it and I was in love. By far the largest project I have ever undertaken on my own. It too was really beatup. The frame was cracked, I missed that, every fender and body panel has dents and bends, some serious, and the inside is rust covered. It didn't run either. I didn't care, it was and is history, and it is the Coolist toughest machine. I think I gave the guy $2,400 Dollars a year ago.
He delivered it with his Dodge 3500 Diesel for another 100.
I kept telling myself I shouldn't have given him $300 for it, but it isn't 1980 anymore and these things are rare. It was almost complete and had it's bed and fenders. I can't wait to work on it and resent interferences once I am working on it.

I don't really think of the effort I put towards making it operational as work though. I've always been a WWII buff and as a kid I dreamed of dragging a Zero or P39 out of the jungle to rebuild. Well I'm just not able to do that in this life time. When I look out in the garage at my WC12 I get to do some time traveling. I feel like a I managed to realize part of that dream I had so very long ago and that brings a smile. They didn't steal it all from me, not all of it.

[Rob S]

Well a bit,
both front guards have been primed, sanded and primed and sanded etc and now both have a coat of green, same for the grill and the nose cone that sits on top of the grill. That bit was a real pain as it had been bashed about a fair bit when they had crashed the truck. Both light buckets have also been done so the front end is beginning to look pretty good. Next job is getting the bumper gussets and then making a bumper bar.
Never sorted out the inner guards, so I will get a copy made (in Reverse) of the original right hand one.
Next is to doo a bit more on the body and then when i have a bit more cash get stuck into the engine.
On that note does anyone know what my engine came from as the serial nember prefix is T26, which from what I have read doesnt make a lot of sense.
Cheers
Rob S

[OLD DODGE]

T26 should be from a 1936 1.5 ton truck.

[Rob S]

Is there any major differences or any problems using this that you are aware of.
Thanks
Rob S

[Gordon(Scotland)]

I think the 1.5 ton engines were all longer, weren't they? Running that engine would involve moving the radiator forward by reversing the radiator frame.

An engine that old is nice to have, but they were quite small capacity (I'd guess the same 217 cu in as th engine that was in it) and very low compression ratio meaning not much horsepower.

See if you can get it to work - if it works, keep it. If it doesn't work find someone with a 1936 1.5 ton and sell it to them, find yourself a 217 or a 230 to replace it.

[Rob S]

Hi Gordon
The engine was in the vehicle when I got it, so as for fitting dont think that parts an issue. If the compression is fairly low then I can always shave the head slightly to add a little bit of horsepower. As the engine rebuild hasnt started yet I will look maround to see if I can find the correct one.
Cheers
Rob S

[OLD DODGE]

Rob,

If you order a build card from Chrysler it will have your original motor serial number on it. This could help you decide in buying a replacement. You might get lucky and find one real close to the original.

I agree with Gordon. Find someone who would really want that 36' motor. You'll make their day.

[OLD DODGE]

Here are pics of some 1936 LF 1.5 ton trucks. I'm sure somebody with one of those trucks would want your engine.

[Bruce]

Hello Kevin,
I rec'd your email, but seemed to have misplaced my build-card, no worries though, it will turn up.

[OLD DODGE]

If you only knew how many things I've misplaced in the last couple of weeks. My wife is having a good old time making fun of me. Is this a sign of aging?

[Rob S]

Hi Kevin
How exactly do you go about getting a build card as I am in South Australia. Is there a web adress or can I fax someone??
Cheers
Rob

[OLD DODGE]

March PWA

An article I wrote appears in the March issue. I spent a lot of time on this and edited it several times AFTER submitting it to Gordon. I appreciate his patience with this however some changes I made that I feel are important did not make it into the article. I do not want the readers to get anything but the best so I'm posting the edits here.

PAGE 14
Right Column


"Later build cards had a third row of columns down the middle for additional options. These columns can have codes at the top but are not punched. These third row columns are sub-columns of the "special codes" columns in the second row. For example if "special codes" column 69 is punched with a 0, 5, and 7 then your card will have codes printed at the top of columns 690, 695, and 697 in the third row. "Special code" column punches will only be 0, 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 as these are the numbers that require only 1 punch each. The amount of columns and the options they represent vary depending on model year."


AND ALSO


"Anyone interested in obtaining a build card for their 1930
thru 1954 Dodge truck must fill out a Build Record Request Form. These may be obtained by calling the Chrysler Archives at (313)252-2902 or writing to:

Chrysler LLC
Corporate Historical Collection
12501 Chrysler Freeway
CIMS 410-11-21
Detroit, MI 48231
Attn: Historical Information

Please visit their website for further information:
www.chryslerheritage.com/pg904.htm"

You can print this and make it page 14.5
LOL

Hope you like the article.

[Bruce]

If you only knew how many things I've misplaced in the last couple of weeks. My wife is having a good old time making fun of me. Is this a sign of aging?

I think your onto something there, it's catchy too!

[OLD DODGE]

Here are the specs for that engine

217.76 cid
3-1/4" bore x 4-3/8 stroke
5.6 to 1 compression
70 hp @ 3000 rpm
150 foot pounds @ 1200 rpm

How did this thread start out? I can't remember. LOL

Bruce,
When your wife.. uh I mean you... find it just let me know.

Rob,
You miss out on a lot of good tech articles and truck stories if you don't subscribe to the Power Wagon Advertiser. And there is also a subscriber only forum. I highly recommend it even if you live in Australia.

[Rob S]

Kevin
once again thanks for you info, I will start to look for the correct engine as I am sure there would be some here, most likely in Queensland as this is where most 1/2 ton Dodges seemed to end up in Australia. My guess would be no more than 30-40 1/2 tonners of all models over here, so not a common vehicle. There are only two WC26 carryalls that I am of aware of my own one and one other in Melbourne, which is about 500 miles from here.
Cheers
Rob S.

[Jake]

Hey Rob,

How is that WC26 coming along?
I put my Carryall back together and put a tarp over it and parked it outside, I am going back to work my 56 Fargo P W.

[Rob S]

That says it all. Every time I start to do something I find another bit missing/ wrong/ rusted/ bent etc etc. Not only that every time I have a problem there is no other vehicle local that I can have a look at. Speaking of which I would love a picture of the bracket that supports the lower half of the pintle hook. As I understand, it runs from the rear cross member to the next chassis cross rail, but a picture would help.
Thanks
Rob S

[Jake]

Hey Rob

I borrowed this from Moparnorn's picture site.
Maybe it will help

[Rob S]

Hi Guys
Got the shock absorbers cleaned up and working one question they all have resistance one way (down) but little on the return, however on reading the manual it tells me they should be double acting, now I could believe that one might not work correctly but all four? Seems a bit hard to believe.
Also got the bracket for the pintle hook bent up and drilled, still need to put the spacer block between it and the inner rail but at least it looks better, and I can mount the pintle hook.
Cheers
Rob

[Gordon(Scotland)]

They should have more resistance in one direction than the other, but should have real resistance in both.

Check the manual about pulling the filler screw and topping up the fluid. I've done this to pretty much all my knee-shocks over the years ( the tube shocks just go in the bin...) and I've only found one shock that wouldn't respond well to filling and working a few times.

I prefer to take them off and sit them with the fill hole upwards, then fill them right up. Not by the book, but maximum effect.

[Rob S]

Hi Gordon
Basicly that is exactly what I have done, in one direction they are bloody hard to move, the other way there is resistance but considerably less, so from your comments I am pretty sure they are right, just confirms it.
thanks
Rob

[Rob S]

Hi All
Got the shockers sorted all the bushes in the connecting arms replaced, and elongated holes welded and filed out, and painted. On top of that also got the bumper folded up for the grand total of $20.00. Drilled all the holes and the only problem I had was one of the repo gussets not being made correctly and the hole in it being out of wack. However with a die grinder and 10 minutes I will also have that sorted as well. Once all this is done I will pull it all off and paint everything.
Cheers
Rob S

[Jake]

Can't wait to see the finished product Rob.

[Rob S]

However
it could still be a long wait. Did get a few more panels made as well, the ones that go under the doors, as both of these had been crushed when the body was removed from the chassis and dumped. Need to weld them in but that will have to wait until the work on the chassis is finished.

Another question???
The bracket that supports the bottom half of the pintle hook runs back until it is under the next cross member, however there is about a five inch gap between it and the cross member, what goes in there was it a block of wood or a steel piece any ideas?
Thanks
Rob S

[Jake]

Hows that WC26 coming Rob?
Mine is sitting behind my shop guarding the Power Wagon collection while I try to clear my schedule and get back into my shop where I belong.
My summer has been way to busy with all kinds of other progects and I hve made little or no progress on my 56 PW.

[Rob S]

Hi Jake
Work is still going on, went down to work today (Sunday) bolted the bumper in place and took some photos. I will post them in the next few days so you can see the progress
Cheers
Rob S

[chester]

jake is that a wwii military panel? 1941?? send pics to jefferychester@YAHOO.COM I HAVE 3 OF THEM,, JC

[Rob S]

Hi Guys
Was speaking to another owner of a WC26 and he told me that the carryalls were not fitted with pintle hooks. However my one has all the holes etc, so were pintle hooks fitted to Carryalls or not ?????
Cheers
Rob

[Jake]

jake is that a wwii military panel? 1941?? send pics to jefferychester@YAHOO.COM I HAVE 3 OF THEM,, JC

Hey Chester,
The one behind my shop is a WC 26 Carryall, the one I am still dealing on is a 1941 WC 11 Panel with civilian rear fenders.

[Ugg013]

jake is that a wwii military panel? 1941?? send pics to jefferychester@YAHOO.COM I HAVE 3 OF THEM,, JC

Jeff:

If ya happen to have some extra cargo doors off them panels let me know.

Rob:

Carryalls DO have pintels.

Later
Ugg

[David DeWeese]

Hey Ugg! How's everything with you? Have a pair of extra rear doors, but these will test your panel-beating abilities to the limits. Will send you photos soon.....
On the 1/2 ton Carryall subject, I found this truck in Colorado while on vacation and it is a real head-scratcher. Owner wouldn't sell it. T112 engine code. Blow up the photo of the rear and you can see the woodwork around the rear window cut-outs and remnants of the headliner. Floor has the metal key slots for rows of seats installed. Looks like factory job, but from the rust lines you can see where some of the panel roof braces have been removed to make the window openings. Sheetmetal on front window openings have been rolled half way back for some kind of a sliding window. Had some type of official-looking stencils on front doors, but couldn't make it out. Any thoughts?
http://DavidDeWeese.mypicgallery.com/41panel/dscf0351_large.jpg

[David DeWeese]

Rear shot....
http://DavidDeWeese.mypicgallery.com/41panel/dscf0354_large.jpg

[David DeWeese]

Front window openings....
http://DavidDeWeese.mypicgallery.com/41panel/dscf0353_large.jpg

[Ugg013]

Yo David:

Like normal, 1 step forward, 10 back. HA! I'm waiting with bated breath for the pics. Cargo doors huh? Ooooooooo. Hey, I got that running board looking almost new. who knows what I can do with the doors? Then, if I ever get my garage back..........

Later
Ugg

[Rob S]

Hi Ugg
General concencus is that Carryalls had pintle hooks, all well and good I will fit the one I have. However if this is the case how come the wiring diagram doesnt show a trailer plug???
Cheers
Rob S

[Ugg013]

Hi Rob:

As stated, ALL military vehicles (trucks) with the exception of the 4X2's had pintels. As to why ya don't see any illustrations on the wiring, I haven't a clue. Carryalls towed trailers, that was part of their job, especially the 1/2 ton'ers. Maybe a rear area mechanic type could give ya a proper answer.

Later

[Rob S]

Hi Ugg
Thanks again will wait for an answer. Do you have a picture of the lower pintle hook bracket that runs from the rear cross member to the inner one as this part is missing
Cheers
Rob S

[Ugg013]

Hi Rob:

Sorry, what I have back there won't help you a bit as I installed a reciever box so I can switch between pintle & ball hitch.

Later
Ugg

[Rob S]

Hi
So Ugg cant help any other volunteers out there who can get me a picture???
Thanks
Rob S

[Rob S]

Sadly there appears to be no takers!
Rob

[Jake]

Hey Rob,
I had a look underneath my Carryall and there is no sign of any pintle hooks in sight.
I tried but came up short.

[Rob S]

Hi
Did get a message from a David DeWeese who thought he might be able to help, but his Carryall is a 3/4 tonner not a 1/2 tonner, so I will keep hoping
Cheers
Rob

[David DeWeese]

Rob,
Just pinched this photo off the G503 forum of the rear of a 1/2 ton Carryall for sale. Thought it might help.
Thanks, David

[Rob S]

Thanks David
Just convinces me more 7 more that I am doing the right thing putting a pintle on The Carryall
Cheers
Rob

[Rob S]

Hi Guys
Just found that I didnt have drip catchers, sort of the 1/2 ton equivalent to an engine bay floor. Managed to get a pair which should arrive here in the next few weeks. I believe these are reasonably hard to find so I think Ive been lucky.
Cheers
Rob S.